I co-led one the first therapeutic men's groups at the University of Missouri with Sam Cochran when we were graduate students in 1983. With very little written at the time about men's issues, Sam and I began our exploration of the ideas that men and boys needed a different kind of therapeutic approach because of their socialization and how it had impacted how they perceived themselves and their interactions with others.

I joined Division 51 in 2004, as a senior in college. I was a Gender Studies and Psych double major and fascinated by the psychology of men and masculinities. I didn't realize there was an APA division devoted to the study, and there were no faculty at my university with that particular interest.

I joined Division 51 before my senior year in undergrad at PSU (2018). I started on Dr. Sonia Molloy’s research team and would help code transcripts from her fathering research. I would talk with her about my clinical and research interests which intersected with the mission of Division 51.